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Gotta have at least a few athletes. Certainly Bob has shown that we can win with smart, fundamentally sound players who can shoot, handle the ball and fit in a team system. But to compete with the best we need to mix in some athletes -- guys like Max and Andrew and Boris. Or a Wayne Bernard.

Unless JAG or Rusty shoot over 40% from three, it's hard to imagine that Grady will not start. Beyond standing at 6'5" and being a great athlete, he is also a knockdown shooter and capable of playing both on and off the ball. Can't keep those skills out of the lineup for long. Grady also plays in one of the best high school leagues in the country and is in his prep year, so he will be old for a freshman coming in.

Along with the two other guards we've recruited, we will have a ton of options for mixing and matching the different skill sets of our guards while also being set for the future, helping mitigate the loss of Jack. But for all the concern about not having the athletes we need to compete at the highest of levels, Grady is that type of player, with Frampton and Collins not far behind (if behind at all).

The present is exciting but the future is also quite bright as well.

stan wrote:Gotta have at least a few athletes. Certainly Bob has shown that we can win with smart, fundamentally sound players who can shoot, handle the ball and fit in a team system. But to compete with the best we need to mix in some athletes -- guys like Max and Andrew and Boris. Or a Wayne Bernard.

You've been away since April until recently. We have this covered and then some for 2017.

2018 PG Foster Loyer (who we offered) just committed to Michigan State. This was not a surprise I believe.

"Forget about the basketball how about having Tom Izzo coach your son as a person." John Loyer dad of Foster Loyer (Michigan State commit)

That's from a Biancardi tweet. High praise. I can think of a place where he could have done even better.

wildforthecats wrote:

stan wrote:Gotta have at least a few athletes. Certainly Bob has shown that we can win with smart, fundamentally sound players who can shoot, handle the ball and fit in a team system. But to compete with the best we need to mix in some athletes -- guys like Max and Andrew and Boris. Or a Wayne Bernard.

You've been away since April until recently. We have this covered and then some for 2017.

Not making any judgments about anyone. Merely saying that we always need some athletes.

Not sure why having athletes is controversial. The sad fact of the matter is that if I was coaching I'd take better athletes over guys who do the little things right.

Steve Rodgers wrote: Not sure why having athletes is controversial. The sad fact of the matter is that if I was coaching I'd take better athletes over guys who do the little things right.

We usually have a pretty good mixture of both.

CatsUpNorth wrote:Unless JAG or Rusty shoot over 40% from three, it's hard to imagine that Grady will not start.

Like I said, if JAG, Rusty and JWat can keep Grady out of the starting lineup, it will be a really good thing. I'm not discounting Grady, I'm imagining the level of play necessary to keep him out of the starting lineup.

Two articles and videos covering two Carter Collins games. The first article, a loss, has some nice quotes from the opposing coach about Carter and video of him draining some shots with a nice dunk mixed in (and some not great defense, but he is 17 after all). Second article Collins team won the game and there is more nice video.

http://www.highschoolot.com/southern-du ... /16249620/

http://www.highschoolot.com/collins-32- ... /16255348/

Was trying to check on Luke Frampton's performance and my research indicates the Poca Dots don't open until December 8; that's old school.

BDF wrote:

CatsUpNorth wrote:Unless JAG or Rusty shoot over 40% from three, it's hard to imagine that Grady will not start.

Like I said, if JAG, Rusty and JWat can keep Grady out of the starting lineup, it will be a really good thing. I'm not discounting Grady, I'm imagining the level of play necessary to keep him out of the starting lineup.

Think Steph as a freshman when wondering if Grady will start in the fall of 2017.

I'm not especially concerned about our athleticism. If we added great athleticism at the wing we'd have all we need this year. Grady, Frampton, and Collins immediately address any concerns for 2017. Fundamentals and length are often a great but not perfect substitute for athleticism. I'm not in the Max was a freakish athlete camp. He was a very good athlete with tremendous length and endless motor. Defensively we see how Jack disrupts the game because of his length. He gets tons of deflections and if he were 6'3 we'd be drooling over ourselves. If we are going to compete against the Clemson's of the world I'd suggest we need an 8-9 man rotation and the previously described cuts that are ongoing in another thread. The rotation is needed to keep the intensity high.

The guys we recruited are better athletes than most of our current and past guard/wings. Every year I hope that trend continues at all positions

DCA06 wrote:The guys we recruited are better athletes than most of our current and past guard/wings. Every year I hope that trend continues at all positions

Amen to that!